Glacier creek H/S

[Big Ian]

Hi all, long-time lurker first-time poster here, please don't flame me
Anyone visited Glacier creek H/S? I did a search and found naught but rumours and good intentions. Any finders out there?

[Big Ian]

not a one? Sannelambert, on Soak.net you mentioned you had planned to head up there....find anything? The only thing I'm going on is the "rumour" that there's something there, the fact that Mike Sato says information is commonly available re: this possible spring, and a 1972 Infrared flyby that say they saw something but the weather precluded a closer inspection (apparently planes weren't all that great in the 70's ).

[Kim_S]

Here was Sannelamberts original post:

"Hey. I don't have a GPS myself but found some listings just by Googling. N49 43.774 W122 19.626 (this was listed as 'hot spring name unknown to me') when I googled it. This seems to be just south of the main Sloquet area. I think I might know what road it's close by. Anyhow I am very encouraged by your 'rumour' report. Glacier Creek runs west out of Lilooet River to Glacier Lake. It looks like there are 2 secondary roads leading from the Lilooet River/Glacier Creek confluence on Lilloet FRS. (Backroad Mapbook-Southwestern BC). I think worth the drive just to check out the scenery, maybe find a hot pool. I downloaded a bunch of GPS' and printed out for reference. I could try to find the digital file if you're into it... "

I don't know if Topo Canada's maps are as good as the USGS topos, but perhaps the spring is shown on the Canadian topo maps. I don't have Glenn Wordworth's book of Western Canada Hot Springs, but I'm guessing it's not in there. By the way, Glenn's new version of the book will hopefully be out soon.

[Big Ian]

Thanks for the info Kim. I'm of the opinion (completely unqualified of course, but I'm partial to it in any case) that the
co-ords are just inaccurate co-ords for Sloquet. I haven't heard of any news that these will point to a fully new and unknown spring. I've also come across a semi-hand drawn topo map that supposedly indicated August Jacob's on a ridge on the road up to Fire lake, just North of Sloquet, but I think the location stems from the (imprecise) co-ords from the Open file 2526 map, which mark only degrees and minutes, and therefore also point to this location. If I was closer I would make a trip to check it out and confirm my suspicions, but it's little far for me to make a quick afternoon trip, and my ladyfriend is averse to the idea of camping in November . Given Grecy's trip photos to A.J.'s, which to me could not have been taken at the above location, I think this is another bogus location.

[Big Ian]

"(f) Glacier Lake - An equivocal anomaly, which may be due either to geothermal waters or decaying vegetation, was detected at the south end of Glacier Lake (Map C&3) in the Lillooet fault zone selected area; this was not inspected but is included in the proposed program; it is located near an intersection of two important faults."

From the 1970's Infrared study.

[Grecy]

I will confirm that August Jacob's is not 'just North of Sloquet'.

As for Glacier Creek/Lake, my sources say that it's more than likely underwater, but I'm not up to date with the latest.
More info will be coming soon I'm sure

-Dan

[Big Ian]

Thanks for then input, Dan! I don't think I'll get to the area before the snow flies (if it hasn't already). At this point I expect Glenn's book to be out before I can get to the area in the spring (season )anyway. I think I have a handle on AJ's location, to be honest I'm most excited to see if my suspicions are correct, moreso than actually visiting at the moment (given that it's november and miserable out).

[Mike_Sato]

Glacier Creek Hot Springs was not detected by infrared in 1972. The airborne infrared prospecting was done in 1973 and what they detected was August Jacob Hot Springs, not Glacier Creek HS. I am friends with a geologist who was part of the 1973 investigation. He told me that they saw the location of August Jacob Hot Springs by helicopter (by infrared), but they never conducted a field research.

Glacier Creek Hot Springs is not underwater. I suspect this rumour may have started from a Skookumchuck user who heard about my most recent trip (3 years ago) to find Glacier Creek Hot Springs and got confused.

I went to investigate the location of Glacier Creek Hot Springs twice during the 1990s. Once was by helicopter reconnaissance. The second time was by canoe, and I explored the Slough areas (I.R). My most recent investigation was on January 26, 2007. I was doing some research by helicopter on behalf of local First Nations. Glacier Lake was frozen except for a couple of 4-5 meter holes on the southeast side of the lake that showed springs bubbling. Also, there was a larger hole (on the northeast side of the lake) where a creek entered the lake. As I was traveling by helicopter, I was unable to confirm if the springs were a hot spring or a cold spring. However, the springs (whether hot or cold) are not the “Glacier Creek Hot Springs” that people have been looking for.

A few years ago, my friend discovered a 19th century prospector map. This map was still fairly accurate and listed many features found in more current maps. This old map showed Glacier Creek Hot Springs (under its old name) to be in an entirely different area than previously reported. Therefore, it is impossible to discover Glacier Creek Hot Springs using Google and Yahoo coordinates, as they are completely off.

If you or anyone you know is really interested in rediscovering Glacier Creek Hot Springs, you can email me. I am coordinating an exploratory trip at the end of April with a hot spring enthusiast working in federal government. He will be the trip leader. The trip will require at least 2-3 days of camping. We are still looking for 4-5 interested people to help us search for Glacier Creek Hot Springs.

This will be the first time anyone has visited Glacier Creek Hot Springs since the 1920s. If you want to be a part of this historical moment, contact me directly by email and I will provide details about the trip.

Mike Sato

[Kim_S]

Mike, I would give my left (Expletive deleted) to join you on what sounds like an excellent and historic journey. But alas, reality woke me up and I can't go. Hopefully you will find some interested and dedicated soakers to join you! We'll love to hear what you find!

[Jeff Allen]

Same here!!!

[Grecy]

If I still lived in Canada I'd be there in a heartbeat.

Mike, please post up a trip report and details on what you find. I understand if you can't give directions, co-ordinates etc. but it will be awesome to read about how you make out.

Thanks Mike,

-Dan

[-BoatSoaker77-]

Mike,

Not sure if my pm went thru to you. I'd be interested in making the trip if you still need volunteers.

[Tim_Messing]

I'd like to be in on this moment in history (trips like this rarely come along). Sending you an email now.

-- Tim.M

[MINERALKING]

Very interesting.

This is the kind of thing hotspringer's dreams are made of. Godspeed your mission gentlemen, and please include as much interesting history as you can in your report.

MK

[Tim_Messing]

Mike any updates when this trip is going to take place? Any word on the Glacier Lake forest road?

A map of the lower Icecap Creek Valley.





-- Tim.M

[soaksdata]

As you approach Glacier Lake there is a spur to the right that ends at the lakes outlet. This is also the best camp site and access to the lake.
If you follow the road to the end you will be high above the lake and within view of the lakes inlet.
Accessing the lake from there would seem very difficult since it is cliffs bordering the lake .
I would launch at the outlet and kayak/canoe up to the inlet then start hiking and set up camp.
It is A Beautiful area with several long hikes visible from the lakes inlet.
Be over prepared and remember your in bear country.

[Mike_Sato]

Tim,

The Glacier Lake Hot Springs is not located on the indicated area of that map. I spoke with the road manager for Glacier Lake FSR, to see how the road conditions are. He did not know, but he gave me permission to have a look myself. I will be up there on Friday morning on my way to Skookumchuck, so I will let you know next week what the conditions are like.

Hi Mike things are good on this end, hope you are well. I’m not sure what the Glacier FSR is like. There will be logging trucks starting to haul today from 49 west and will be hauling to Squamish, there will be a flagger at Baptist but tell them we spoke and they will let you through. Just watch for the trucks.

Gord

Mike Sato

[Tim_Messing]

Shot, I got the spacing wrong while breaking the map into three pieces,

Mike, not located on the map but accessed in some whay by the Glacier Lake Forest Road? It must then be much further up Icecap Creek from Glacier Lake. While I do have a canoe I'd feel better about just starting out from the end of the road unless there was some sort of unlisted prospector \ packers trail down in the valley following Icecap Creek. Mike has that area behind Glacier Lake been logged off in the past?

What Mike posted last year about Glacier Lake Hot Springs from the August Jacob's Hot Springs Topic...

Regarding the Glacier Lake Hot Springs, I researched during the same helicopter flight mentioned previously. I was with accompanied by a few geologists, but we were unable to find it. I had attempted to find this hot springs twice before, but was still unable to find it. Later, my friend discovered an 1897 Harrison & Fire Lake’s old mining map. According to this, the real name is Daly’s Hot Springs. This map is extremely accurate even by today’s standards. If I attempt to find this hot spring one more time, using this map, I am certain I would be able to find it as long as it still exists.

Daly's Hot Springs it is.

-- Tim.M

p.s and some pictures of B.C. lane and a half logging trucks...

[yakshak2002]

Tim---Being an x-trucker,those pics. were very interisting. Thanks
Hotspringer John

[Mike_Sato]

The Glacier Lake Hot Springs field research will take place from May 14-16th. It will require 2 nights of camping, so it would be best to meet at Pemberton at noon time on May 14th at the latest. The gathering location will be Pony Espresso Restaurant. I checked out the Glacier Lake FSR, and drove 10km to the end of the road. Only the 1st km had 2 areas with heavily eroded water ditch, the remaining 100 ditches are not as bad, but high clearance trucks will be recommended.

If those with high clearance trucks can drive their vehicles so that they can share a ride with those who don’t, it would be much appreciated.


Mike Sato